The Bible – Short Back and Sides

Isaac's Circumcision

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For the people who follow Judaism, Genesis 17 I would imagine is very important.  In this new chapter a lot happens.  God decides to rename a few people, probably to keep things consistent further on in the book.  Abram and Sarai get a great new makeover and emerge as Abraham and Sarah.  This happened while Abraham was 99 years old.  Obviously a late bloomer.  God also said that this time next year, Sarah will bear you a son and this guy will be important.  As an aside, the best thing about the OT is that the characters do tend to get a bit lippy with God.  Abraham says something like “seriously, a woman of 90 and a man of 100 will have a child”.  None of that silly unquestioning obedience here.

Oh yeah, and God said that every male over the age of 8 days should be circumcised.  And they were.  Ouch.  In exchange for the foreskin, Sarah gets to be a 90-year-old mother and Abraham a 100-year-old father.  You would have thought they’d be content with a restful old age, but they were obviously made of hardier stock back then.

Genesis 18 is mostly a bit of banter between God and Abraham and Sarah about the fact that Sarah is well beyond child-bearing age.  God says He will do it because he’s awesome, which seems fair enough.  Then God says he’s off to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah unless he can find 50 good people there.  Abraham argues again – this bit is pretty good actually – Abraham says “what if you only find 45, will you destroy the city for want of 5 people?”  God, being reasonable here, agrees that 45 is a good number and will spare the city if 45 good people can be found.  Actually, here’s the exchange, and I like it:

18:20 And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

18:21 I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

18:22 And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD.

18:23 And Abraham drew near, and said, Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?

18:24 Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?

18:25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?

18:26 And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes.

18:27 And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the LORD, which am but dust and ashes:

18:28 Peradventure there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the city for lack of five? And he said, If I find there forty and five, I will not destroy it.

18:29 And he spake unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found there. And he said, I will not do it for forty’s sake.

18:30 And he said unto him, Oh let not the LORD be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure there shall thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it, if I find thirty there.

18:31 And he said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the LORD: Peradventure there shall be twenty found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for twenty’s sake.

18:32 And he said, Oh let not the LORD be angry, and I will speak yet but this once: Peradventure ten shall be found there. And he said, I will not destroy it for ten’s sake.

18:33 And the LORD went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and Abraham returned unto his place.

Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but I get the idea that God actually likes Abraham.  From the lines between them it seems as though God and Abraham are old friends.  They bargain and they chat.  From memory (and, I’m sure, later reading) I get the impression that everyone else is pretty much treated as a tool: God needs something doing and he taps up a nearby person.  But here there seems to be a real relationship.

I think we can stop here.  Aside from the circumcision thing, these last 2 chapters were pretty well written and had real people in them.  Anyway, Sodom and Gomorrah and Lot and Lot’s wife are in the next bit and they deserve their own title.  Genesis 19, soon.

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Posted on 23 February, 2010, in The Bible-Readalong and tagged , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 10 Comments.

  1. Yeah, that age thing was always odd in the Bible. Especially when you jump up to medieval history where a person was lucky to reach 40.

  2. I don't know about you, but the elitist atmosphere (as in God's favored ones vs the outcasts) in the Bible is quite unnerving for me. Here, Abraham is indeed God's friend and he gets such huge perks for it. I have read the Bible before, and the Old Testament and New Testament seem quite different in flavor, and no guesses which one I prefer. I look forward to your post on Sodom and Gomorrah 🙂
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  3. "but I get the idea that God actually likes Abraham."

    Yes! this is exactly right! and he actually likes you and me too. 🙂 I know you'll think I'm a loony, but this is the bit about God which I like the best- I feel like I have this kind of relationship with God- it is something that I strive for.

    I've been enjoying your series Ray!

    • No, I don't think you're a loony – at least, not because of your beliefs, anyway 😉 Unfortunately, we won't be seeing this side of God for a while, if at all. The God to come is impulsive, inconsistent and contradictory – almost exactly like a human, in fact….

      Glad you're enjoying it, Alison.
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  4. The age thing always confused me too. Cavemen were lucky to reach 30 and in medieval times it was a similar story. What happened in the middle?
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    • Hi Orlandy. The thing about dying early came about because statisticians looked at the whole population. Once we moved away from magic and towards scientific medicines, there was far less death for the newborns and this pushed up the overall age of the population. Way back when, if you got to your 30th birthday you were pretty much assured of a long life – barring war, murder or plague, of course!
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  5. The Lord is great praise him!

    • That was a low/no content post old fruit. I'm discussing and reading the greatest story ever told (allegedly – Harry Potter was pretty good too) and you just say "ra ra ra"? Your church must be very excited to have you on side. Quantity over quality I guess.
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    • I was hoping for more elaboration. Would you come back and flesh it out a bit?

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    Yeah, that age thing was always odd in the Bible. Especially when you jump up to medieval history where a person was lucky to reach 40. This just made my day much brighter. Thanks a lot.
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